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Internet leads, Distrust Mountain and Scaling the Face – Base Camp

In one of my last posts I wrote about converting internet leads or as I called it, successfully navigating “Distrust Mountain“. I received a ton of response to that post via email and the number one question was “What is the answer, what are the tactics?” to this statement in my original post:

The ability to climb that first, nearly insurmountable, face of defense on Distrust Mountain is what separates the good loan officer from the average one who is struggling to earn a paycheck. I call it scaling the face. Scaling the face requires all sorts of special talents including building rapport, telling a compelling story, having a unique selling proposition, displaying excellence and professionalism, building on small commitments, and numerous others. The tactics for doing so is a topic for another post, but needless to say, that wall is there and needs to be scaled.

I’m sorry to disappoint, but I have no magic bullet. I am sure that you all suspected that to be the case; for there truly is no such thing – if there was we would have all seen the infomercial. There are no gimmies in the sales world (thank you for listening, choir). With that disclaimer out of the way I’ll do my best to outline the best practices THAT I HAVE FOUND help successfully close internet leads. Unfortunately it’s a long process and I’ll need to break it in to a handful of posts over the next week to keep your eyes from falling out of your head; but I will get through it — bear with me.

I think our approach works pretty well; I also know that there is room for continual improvement. I don’t purport this to be the best or only way to convert internet leads; but it is our way. Our un-audited results indicate that we receive a return of about 5 to 1 on our investment in internet leads; and we’re pretty happy with that. If you want greater ROI, you’ll need to do a better job than Read more

Interview With Robert Ashby, CMPS

ashbyI interviewed Robert Ashby, a Certified Mortgage Planning Specialist, in this 15 minute podcast. Robert’s background is also in securities sales so he and I have much in common.

Robert was the first CMPS in Florida and is President of Solid Rock Mortgage Corporation. He runs a site called Mortgage Meds and is an airline pilot (he still flies 5 days a month for American). Links to follow the podcast include:

Solid Rock Mortgage Corporation

Certified Mortgage Planning Institute

How to Earn Money Borrowing at 6% and Investing at 4%

Money Merge Acccounts

Home Equity: Risky During Hurricane Season

Mortgage Meds

I appreciate Robert’s participation and encourage you to listen to someone who is practicing the “Strategic Equity Positioning” approach.

Mortgage Brokers — How Everybody Can Win

Almost three years ago we kinda sorta beta tested doing invitation only seminars for past clients of local mortgage brokers. It went like this.

The mortgage guy went through his data base looking for clients who either fit the investor profile, (as defined arbitrarily by some bald dude) or folks who had actually spoken to them about their investments, or how they wanted to get started. This resulted in a ’10 best list’. We’d decided to keep these seminars small and intimate. We didn’t want to play the numbers game. By limiting the invitees to those who were actually interested in real estate investing, we felt 10 people (or couples) was about the right sized group.

This turned out to be correct, as the atmosphere was more like having a conversation instead of being talked to. It also resulted in more time getting their questions answered than listening to me talking at them — a good thing.

I wrote in more depth on this topic several days ago.

So far, the mortgage brokers who have hosted these seminars have increased their production significantly, and their clients have begun the march to a great retirement through intelligent real estate investment. The very first mortgage broker to participate ended up inviting only five clients. All five became our clients. In the eight months immediately following our first client meetings, he closed almost 30 loans. In the year after that he did another dozen.

I invite you to contact me if you have interest. We don’t charge for the seminars, but the host is responsible for our travel and hotel expenses.

Our last seminar of was held in Boise, and the response was incredible. We ended up having to do two of them. All but one person decided to seriously consider becoming a client. So far, over half have indeed signed on. This will mean by the end of the year our Boise host will be busy providing about 10-20 new loans — all a direct result of the seminar. This also means that whatever these clients do in the future, the original seminar host will be the go-to Read more

Can I ease out of my pay-option loan?

Heard this one before? I tell you what, if I had a nickel… skip it, you know what I’m saying. During the last few years home owners, especially in areas with exceptionally low levels of housing affordability, have flocked in droves to the “dreaded” pay option mortgage. Now with recasts looming, interest rates rising, and equity dripping away, more and more home owners are calling me asking how they can still afford their home AND stop losing equity.

A quick thought on the “dreaded” pay-option mortgage. Negative amortization gets a bad rap these days. The mainstream media loves these loans because they are the ideal poster-child of a mortgage market debacle. Think about these loans for a minute: they eat home equity, have high interest rates (usually), are confusing, and make the people who sell them A BOAT LOAD of money. That sounds like music to a reporter’s ears. And so they get a bad rap.

While I generally dislike pay option loans, it’s not the loans themselves; it’s how they are (mis)used. To be sure, neg-am pay-option loans have a place in the lending spectrum; but I believe that place to be with the short-term, savvy investor, playing the flipping game in a rising market, not with the family of four trying to buy a bigger house in San Francisco while working with restrictive cash flows. The problem is that the people calling me are not the savvy investors; it’s the family of four that took a neg-am loan, got addicted to the minimum payment option, and now is in a world of hurt.

These people chose the pay option for either the low payments, the low fees (with a commission north of 3 points on the back of these loans, anyone charging front points with a full margin is sadistic), or they liked the idea of choosing their payment option each month. Most people in the payment-option loans made two critical mistakes: 1. they took the loan for a property they planned on staying in for a long time and 2. they lacked the will power to make anything more Read more

What Barenaked Ladies Taught Me About Scripting And Delivery

The most important part of my job as a loan officer is helping clients understand how mortgages work.

It’s a tall order sometimes and that’s why I spend a ton of time crafting answers to common questions and then rehearsing them until I can recite them backwards, forwards, and from any point in the middle.

This is called Scripting and Delivery.

Why do I do it? Because over the course of my career, I have heard the same questions from my clients thousands of time. Naturally, that’s fine with me. The more times I am asked a particular question, the more I know just how important it is to people.

  • “I’ve heard that interest only loans are dangerous. What do you think?”
  • “Our family is about add another baby. How should we incorporate that into our mortgage plan?”
  • “I just paid off a credit card. Should I close the card?”

Each of these questions is a springboard to bigger, more important discussions about mortgage planning. That’s when I am thankful that I know what I am going to say and how I am going to say it. A carefully-crafted answer makes a far greater impact to my clients that if I just spoke off the cuff.

But, scripting alone, though, doesn’t cut it. It has to be backed up with flawless delivery, too.

This is where a lot of mortgage and real estate professionals fall short. They rely on their experience/expertise and just figure that they’ll wing it when the time comes to respond to a client’s question.

Look: It doesn’t matter if you know what to say if you don’t know how to say it clearly. And I’m going to prove it.

Below, are the lyrics for the Barenaked Ladies tune “One Week”, courtesy of Rock It Old School. Look them over, print them out, put them on an adjacent screen, whatever — just get a copy you can reference while you watch the embedded YouTube video above.

You’ve got the “script” in-hand so how hard can it be to just sing along?

If you failed on your first go around, try again. If you fail on Read more

The lead to loan cycle of an Internet lead aka Distrust Mountain

My mortgage company works primarily with Internet leads — we’ve found it far more effective than direct mail, telemarketing or any other of the dying mass marketing techniques. We’ve developed and implemented systems and processes to effectively convert Internet leads in to customers and those customers in to repeat and (hopefully) long-time clients. As the marketing guy at our company I spend a lot of time looking at Internet leads and where and how we are converting them. I look at our successes and our failures and try to build marketing to support our chosen business channel.

I wanted to share with you all the lead to loan cycle that is typical with an Internet lead in terms of trust. Everyone talks about being a trusted advisor to your client, but what does that mean and really look like through the loan cycle? I’ve developed a (crude) graph that I show to all of our sales people to explain the challenges of working with a person who has solicited a refinance or purchase quote via the Internet. I call the graph Distrust Mountain.

Distrust Mountain

While I’ve documented the Internet lead here, you can apply this with varying levels of correlation across all lead sources. It also does a nice job of documenting how much better referrals or repeat business are, because that initial hump is so much lower.

As an originator, when you first receive an Internet lead, you must understand that although that person has expressed a varying degree of interest in some part of the refinance or purchase transaction they haven’t expressed any interest in you or your company. When you conduct the first phone call you are faced with a very high barrier to earning the person’s business. You are calling them (one of four or five people) and soliciting your services. They may have talked to others before you and will definitely talk to people after your initial conversation. Their defenses are up and they are looking for any reason to not continue the conversation with you.

This is the most difficult part of the transaction for inexperienced loan officers. The Read more

So, Boss…You Want I Should WACC Dis Guy?

You know how lenders are. We’re always talking about WACC-ing a guy who borrows money. Do you REALLY know what we’re tawkin’ about, though?

The Weighted Average Cost of Capital or WACC, is a corporate finance term used to measure the true cost of debt. You can find that figure in any bank’s annual report, on the Sources and Uses of Funds Page. They refer to it as a Cost of Funds.
It’s a pretty simple analysis. I use WACC analysis to determine whether you should refinance your home loan.

I can just WACC a property, I can WACC a certain person, I can even WACC your whole family if you want me to. Here’s how I would do it:

Let’s assume this homeowner has a $210,000 first mortgage at 6%, a $60,000 second mortgage at 9%, and $30,000 in consumer debt at 12%.

1- Add up all of your debt.

$210,000 + 60,000 + 30,000 = $300,000

2- Determine what the percentage each loan is to the sum of all the debts.

First mortgage= 70%, Second Mortgage= 20%, Consumer debt = 10%

3- Multiply the loan rate by that percentage for each loan.

First Mortgage= 70% * 6.0= 4.2, Second Mortgage= 20% * 9= 1.8, Consumer Debt= 10% * 12= 1.2

4- Add up all of those figures. That’s your WACC

WACC= 4.2 + 1.8 + 1.2 = 7.2%

Now, compare that WACC to the loan you could get to refinance those debts. If it’s lower than 7.2%, dat’s an offer you can’t refuse. Pretty simple, huh?

Fuhgeddaboudit.

P.S.- I tried this earlier and it seemed awfully confusing. You can figure for after-tax WACC to be more accurate but this post is probably easier to understand.

Mortgage Minutes with The FHA Expert: Old Skool Guvvies May Solve the Subprime Meltdown

I interviewed “The FHA Expert”, Jeff Belonger of www.theFHAexpert.com in this 18 belongerminute podcast. This is my first interview so you’ll notice two things:

1- I sound like the used auto dealer in a small town that bought the town’s only radio station; I’ll work on the delivery.

2- Jeff, from my hometown of Cherry Hill, NJ, brings out my “Philly accent”.

Some links to follow along:

Creative Financing: FHA Loans

Creative Financing: The Nehemiah Down Payment Assistance Program

Pre-Approval vs. Pre-Qualification

Thank you to “The FHA Expert”, Jeff Belonger, for his patience and professionalism. He can be reached at (800)-291-7900 or at www.the FHA expert.com

Subprime Loans Disappeared? Learn How to be a Hard Money Loan Broker

Loan originators who have based their business on subprime mortgage products have been feeling the pinch in 2007. Private mortgages or hard money lending may be the solution to your problem.
Four originators gathered with three hard money lenders in our podcast.

The Lenders:

Mitch Zeichner (310) 948-2622 Mitch represents a wealthy family’s portfolio and funds real estate loans for residential properties in California, Arizona, and Nevada.

Dean Huntley (858) 759-9090 Dean is a true “trust deeds broker” and private mortgage lender. Dean represents 70 investors and funds residential and commercial real estate loans in California and Arizona.

We were joined by originators Robb Lejuwaan , Marc Brinitzer , and investor Jon Morrow.

Some important links:

HARD MONEY: Life as a Legal Loan Shark

HARD MONEY: Apartment Loans

HARD MONEY: Beware of the Brokerage Daisy Chain

HARD MONEY: Seven Tips For Borrowers

California Hard Money Lenders

California Mortgage Association

The podcast lasts some 58 minutes and has some static at 35:10 that lasts for 30 seconds. If you are a mortgage originator who is looking for a way to get some business, listen in! It works. I received a report today that an originator and lender on the call are working to fund a loan next week.

Is the Subprime Mortgage Market the next Enron?

An excerpt from one of my recent posts on The Active Rain Real Estate Network:

The sub-prime mortgage market is falling apart. Wall Street firms are being stung by the bad sub-prime loans they bought and have demanded that the sub-prime lenders buy those loans back. The sub-prime lenders didn’t have the money to do so. Those Wall Street firms simply swapped the debt for ownership in the firms. Once the camel got his nose underneath the tent, he didn’t like what he saw.

The sub-prime mortgage market is completely tightening its lending standards. The wholesale account executives, once compensated like a proven reliever for the Padres, are applying for night gigs as bartenders to supplement their income. The words “stated income” are becoming more politically incorrect than a racial slur. The NEW AND IMPROVED sub-prime lender will emerge as the prostitute who found God.

Here were some excerpts from some of the comments:

From Mikey:

Right now the lending standards are just taking out 100% subprime financing. Watching the rate sheets, low LTV stated deals are still plentiful. I think hard money can be a profitable niche, but it will remain a niche. The other thing limiting its growth potential is just the slowdown in real estate market in general.

From my buddy, Jeff Belonger in New Jersey:

Brian… some good points. But sub prime will always be there, in my opinion. I remember when it started hitting the streets hard back in 1994-’95. The strong will survive…
… But there will still be those few sub prime lenders that have been positioning themselves the last 2 years, not taking every piece of crap. Names like Equi First and Decision One will be around and they still have good products that Wall Street will invest in. Why? Because of their performance records and lack of loans that go into default

More importantly. Some of the e-mails I received today:

From a colleague in the Midwest:

Hey, do you know of something going on at New Century? Rumors are flying right now…

Unsolicited e-mail from my post:

i’m an account executive for a major subprime lender. i am seeing fear and panic in Read more