{"id":1241,"date":"2007-03-31T13:10:40","date_gmt":"2007-03-31T20:10:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/?p=1241"},"modified":"2007-04-12T21:59:15","modified_gmt":"2007-04-13T04:59:15","slug":"want-to-make-sure-you-can-defend-yourself-from-internet-bad-guys-aim-for-the-body-not-the-head","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/1241\/want-to-make-sure-you-can-defend-yourself-from-internet-bad-guys-aim-for-the-body-not-the-head\/","title":{"rendered":"Want to make sure you can defend yourself from internet bad guys? Aim for the body, not the head . . ."},"content":{"rendered":"

This is Tim O’Reilly<\/a> on the Kathy Sierra persecution<\/a>:<\/p>\n

There’s an attitude among many bloggers that deleting inflammatory comments is censorship. I think that needs to change. I’m not suggesting that every blog will want to delete such comments, but I am suggesting that blogs that do want to keep the level of dialog at a higher level not be censured for doing so.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I’m not crazy about some kind of quasi-official clean comments pledge, presumably accompanied by a Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval. The more webloggers look like Babbitts<\/a>, the less I like them.<\/p>\n

However: Policing comments in your own weblog is not censorship.<\/p>\n

With the bogus legal standard, “Shouting fire in a crowded theater,” Oliver Wendell Holmes<\/a> did incredible violence to two fundamental American liberties — the right of free speech and the right to private property.<\/p>\n

You have every right to free speech at your own expense on your own property or on public property. Holmes invented his specious standard to outlaw activities that should have been — and since have<\/i> been — upheld as constitutionally protected speech. Not surprisingly, the perverse standard he proposed is used ubiquitously by thoughtless people to justify all manner of suppression of private property rights.<\/p>\n

The owner<\/i> of a theater has every right to shout, “Fire!” on his own property. He has every right to host a “Shout Fire!” party on his own property. If someone is injured in consequence, he’s subject to lawsuit — but none of this has anything to do with free speech. It would make no difference if the exhortation had been, “Excelsior!”<\/p>\n

But: You do not<\/i> have the right to free speech at someone else’s expense or on someone else’s property. The issue in that circumstance is not the speaker’s right to self-expression but the property owner’s right to condition his hospitality on the behavior of his guests. You do not have the right to shout, “Fire!” in the theater because you are a guest of the owner, not because your right to free speech is being suppressed.<\/p>\n

In other words, if someone is acting like a jackass in your living room — or in Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

This is Tim O’Reilly on the Kathy Sierra persecution: There’s an attitude among many bloggers that deleting inflammatory comments is censorship. I think that needs to change. I’m not suggesting that every blog will want to delete such comments, but I am suggesting that blogs that do want to keep the level of dialog at […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_crdt_document":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,24,16],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-1241","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"hentry","6":"category-blogging","7":"category-egoism-in-action","8":"category-weblogging-101","10":"no-featured-image"},"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":11912,"url":"https:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/11912\/hdmi-and-me-a-mac-mini-turns-out-to-be-the-ideal-tv-set-top-box\/","url_meta":{"origin":1241,"position":0},"title":"HDMI and me: A Mac mini turns out to be the ideal TV set-top box","author":"Greg Swann","date":"May 4, 2010","format":false,"excerpt":"I've known this was doable for quite a while, but last Friday I finally got around to doing it: I took an old Mac mini we had lying around, remapped it to OS-X Snow Leopard and then set it up as an HDMI set-top box for our very small big-screen\u2026","rel":"","context":"In "Casual Friday"","block_context":{"text":"Casual Friday","link":"https:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/category\/casual-friday\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":2446,"url":"https:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/2446\/attempted-censorship-of-a-real-estate-blogger-in-virginia\/","url_meta":{"origin":1241,"position":1},"title":"Attempted Censorship of a real estate blogger in Virginia","author":"Jim Duncan","date":"December 29, 2007","format":false,"excerpt":"Right or wrong?\u00a0 What do you think?","rel":"","context":"In "Blogging"","block_context":{"text":"Blogging","link":"https:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/category\/blogging\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":18337,"url":"https:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/18337\/overnight-news-graffiti-is-the-workaround-to-net-censorship-buck-phiden\/","url_meta":{"origin":1241,"position":2},"title":"Overnight News: \u201cGraffiti is the workaround to net censorship.\u201d \u2013Buck\u00a0Phiden","author":"Greg Swann","date":"July 22, 2021","format":false,"excerpt":"Somewhere in the city of the night a lone rebel makes his mark, raising his fist in defiance of big-tech censorship as he slashes out his message: \u201cGraffiti is the social network of the perma-banned.\u201d \u2013Buck Phiden Yes, Buck Phiden, the magatagger, the clean, serene meme-machine, the paleo-artisanal wall-blogger. 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