{"id":13309,"date":"2010-09-26T12:34:06","date_gmt":"2010-09-26T19:34:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/?p=13309"},"modified":"2010-09-26T13:50:09","modified_gmt":"2010-09-26T20:50:09","slug":"my-take-on-real-estate-bar-camps-if-you-want-to-learn-how-to-sell-youll-learn-nothing-by-studying-with-enthusiastic-amateurs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/13309\/my-take-on-real-estate-bar-camps-if-you-want-to-learn-how-to-sell-youll-learn-nothing-by-studying-with-enthusiastic-amateurs\/","title":{"rendered":"My take on real estate bar camps: If you want to learn how to sell, you’ll learn nothing by “studying” with enthusiastic amateurs."},"content":{"rendered":"

Jeff Brown wants to know if real estate bar camps are a waste of his time<\/a>. My view is that they probably are, at least in terms of making maximum productive use of time taken away from money-making work. Jeff is a chatty guy, so I expect he can have a good time with any random group of real estate practitioners, but in terms of epiphanies major and minor — or even just an a-ha! or two to cover the cost of the gasoline — there’s just not that much there there.<\/p>\n

First a caveat — thus to give you a chance to dismiss me if your mind runs easily to thoughts of thoughtlessness: I’ve only been to one real estate bar camp. Brian Brady and I did a half-day BloodhoundBlog Unchained event at Zillow.com’s headquarters in Seattle, and the first (I think) Seattle REBC was held the next day. Brian and I did a session that day with Ardell Dellaloggia, then I used Al Lorenz’ Windows laptop to do a session on Scenius — with the latter being of benefit to no one, I think. I spent much of the day in a conference room, conferring with anyone who would dare to talk to me, and that was reasonably productive. I taught much more than I learned, but I got to spend quite a bit of time with Al, and that man knows a lot of interesting stuff.<\/p>\n

But: The event was opened by a vendor, and the vendorslut influence was an oozing slime everywhere. It was obvious to me that the ordinary punters were completely lost, and it was equally obvious that the vendors were “befriending” folks who had learned nothing — except that they were scared and clueless — picking them off like drunken sorority pledges at a fraternity mixer.<\/p>\n

I’ve not done anything with the bar camps that have been held in Phoenix, second because the wired Realtors in town seem to want to have nothing to do with me, but first because the wired Realtors in town don’t seem to know very much that I’m interested in learning. If Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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