{"id":1994,"date":"2007-10-01T20:07:08","date_gmt":"2007-10-02T03:07:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/?p=1994"},"modified":"2007-10-01T23:18:13","modified_gmt":"2007-10-02T06:18:13","slug":"budgeting-redfin-making-the-numbers-work-in-a-corporate-brokerage","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/1994\/budgeting-redfin-making-the-numbers-work-in-a-corporate-brokerage\/","title":{"rendered":"Budgeting Redfin: Making the numbers work in a corporate brokerage"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Last week <a href=\"http:\/\/www.businessweek.com\/the_thread\/hotproperty\/archives\/2007\/09\/if_youre_lookin.html?campaign_id=rss_blog_blogspotting\" target=\"_blank\">Peter Coy at BusinessWeek made a point of asking Redfin&#8217;s Glenn Kelman a real estate question<\/a>. Kelman&#8217;s answer wasn&#8217;t awful, but it wasn&#8217;t great. (The negotiation advantage for unsold spec home occurs once a quarter, not just once a fiscal year.) But it was funny to me, because of this: Why would anyone expect Kelman to know about real estate in the trenches? He&#8217;s not like RE\/Max&#8217;s Dave Liniger, an ex-grunt with a corner office. He&#8217;s a corporate guy, a veteran of securitized start-ups.<\/p>\n<p>And <i>that<\/i> is a completely different world. Kelman provides a pretty candid peek into that world <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.guykawasaki.com\/2007\/10\/financial-model.html\" target=\"_blank\">today at Guy Kawasaki&#8217;s weblog<\/a>, a run-down on Redfin&#8217;s budgeting process and how things worked out in real life. There is <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.redfin.com\/blog\/2007\/10\/what_me_worry_redfin_in_a_buyers_market.html\" target=\"_blank\">a more corporate take on similar material at Redfin&#8217;s blog<\/a>. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.futureofrealestatemarketing.com\/sneak-a-peak-inside-redfin\" target=\"_blank\">Joel Burslem remarked briefly on these posts<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com\/realestate\/archives\/122817.asp?source=rss\" target=\"_blank\">Sandy Kaduce provides a thoughtful analysis at the <i>Seattle Post-Intelligencer<\/i>&#8216;s real estate weblog<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>BloodhoundRealty.com runs out of a 300sf room in our home, and, especially, the passenger cabins of our cars. Glenn Kelman lives in a world I know nothing about. I find the idea of salaried agents interesting &#8212; by which I mean exotic &#8212; and I could see a benefit to a coordinated, centralized back-office operation, although this might introduce licensing problems across state lines (another good reason to do away with licensing). In any case, I am grateful to everyone who fingered these posts by email, but I don&#8217;t think I have anything to add to the discussion.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/?p=1984\" target=\"_blank\">In comments here yesterday<\/a>, Kelman said, &#8220;At Redfin, we would prefer it if both buyers\u2019 agents and sellers\u2019 agents each charged a fee.&#8221; That would be much easier to effect if the commissions were divorced, a topic I definitely <i>am<\/i> interested in taking up again &#8212; and again.<\/p>\n<p>In the meantime, give a look to <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.guykawasaki.com\/2007\/10\/financial-model.html\" target=\"_blank\">Kelman&#8217;s post at Guy Kawasaki&#8217;s blog<\/a>. It&#8217;s a fascinating glimpse into a side of real estate most of us don&#8217;t have to think about.<br \/>\n<!-- technorati tags start --><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:right;font-size:10px;\">Technorati Tags: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.technorati.com\/tag\/blogging\" rel=\"tag\">blogging<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.technorati.com\/tag\/real estate\" rel=\"tag\">real estate<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.technorati.com\/tag\/real estate marketing\" rel=\"tag\">real estate marketing<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.technorati.com\/tag\/Redfin.com\" rel=\"tag\">Redfin.com<\/a><\/p>\n<p><!-- technorati tags end --><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Last week Peter Coy at BusinessWeek made a point of asking Redfin&#8217;s Glenn Kelman a real estate question. Kelman&#8217;s answer wasn&#8217;t awful, but it wasn&#8217;t great. (The negotiation advantage for unsold spec home occurs once a quarter, not just once a fiscal year.) But it was funny to me, because of this: Why would anyone [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_crdt_document":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,6,5,27],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-1994","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"hentry","6":"category-blogging","7":"category-marketing","8":"category-real-estate","9":"category-redfincom","11":"no-featured-image"},"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":18099,"url":"https:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/18099\/overnight-news-like-orren-boyle-in-atlas-shrugged-redfins-glenn-kelman-makes-rules-because-he-cant-make-money\/","url_meta":{"origin":1994,"position":0},"title":"Overnight News: Like Orren Boyle in Atlas Shrugged, Redfin\u2019s Glenn Kelman makes rules because he can\u2019t make\u00a0money.","author":"Greg Swann","date":"May 3, 2021","format":false,"excerpt":"Is Glenn Kelman the Orren Boyle of real estate? 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