{"id":555,"date":"2006-10-19T17:50:23","date_gmt":"2006-10-20T00:50:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/?p=555"},"modified":"2007-07-16T21:10:24","modified_gmt":"2007-07-17T04:10:24","slug":"defining-the-divorced-commission-a-short-hand-term-for-understanding-alternative-real-estate-compensation-models","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/555\/defining-the-divorced-commission-a-short-hand-term-for-understanding-alternative-real-estate-compensation-models\/","title":{"rendered":"Defining the Divorced Commission: A short-hand term for understanding alternative real estate compensation models . . ."},"content":{"rendered":"

I just spent a very informative hour on the phone with Jeff Brown<\/a>, and I want to summarize what I took away from our conversation.<\/p>\n

First, Jeff has a very different understanding of the term “co-broke” compared to the way it is used in Arizona. When we went to essentially 100% buyer-brokerage for residential real estate, we kept the term “co-broke” to mean the compensation that would be paid to the buyer’s broker — even though the buyer’s broker is never a sub-agent of the listing broker or the seller and represents only the buyer.<\/p>\n

Jeff writes explicit contract language to make pellucid his exclusive buyer’s agency and is also taking his compensation from the buyer. What the listing agent chooses to do about the portion of the sales commission set aside for any cooperating broker is between the listing agent and the seller.<\/p>\n

I would describe that as an instance of what I want to call Divorced Commissions. The lingering idea of subordination — seller oversees listing broker who oversees cooperating broker — is completely eliminated, at least from the buyer’s side of the ledger. The buyer contracts for and compensates his own representative.<\/p>\n

Similarly, writing the listing agreement to concede any shared sales commission directly to the buyer<\/a> effects the same sort of divorce. We are doing this with one listing right now<\/a>, and I gather that Ardell has just done something similar<\/a>.<\/p>\n

This again is a form of Divorced Commissions. Even though in this instance any buyer’s agent’s commission is originating in the listing agreement, neither the lister nor the seller are attempting to use these funds to advance the seller’s interests at the expense of the buyer’s.<\/p>\n

Nota bene:<\/i> The original purpose of encapsulating the cooperating broker’s commission within the listing broker’s commission was to align everyone’s interests with<\/i> the seller’s interests and against<\/i> the buyer’s interests. The cooperating broker working with the buyer was compensated for introducing the buyer to the seller and for actively working against the buyer’s interests in the seller’s behalf.<\/p>\n

You might argue that, at least in Arizona, where sub-agency is no longer practiced for residential real estate, the Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

I just spent a very informative hour on the phone with Jeff Brown, and I want to summarize what I took away from our conversation. First, Jeff has a very different understanding of the term “co-broke” compared to the way it is used in Arizona. 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