{"id":650,"date":"2006-11-18T00:42:35","date_gmt":"2006-11-18T07:42:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/?p=650"},"modified":"2006-11-18T06:50:32","modified_gmt":"2006-11-18T13:50:32","slug":"an-argument-for-dual-agency-%e2%80%93-part-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/650\/an-argument-for-dual-agency-%e2%80%93-part-1\/","title":{"rendered":"Dual Agency Smack-Down: An Argument FOR Dual Agency &#8211; part 1"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This is a stupid subject. This is a necessary subject. There are a lot of different viewpoints on this subject. A lot of the viewpoints that seem to matter came from lawyers, court decisions (judges who are also lawyers), and other people who are also wrong.<\/p>\n<p>Back in the days when it was sub-agency only and I took my sister, Diane out to find her a house to buy I was representing each and every one of the home sellers whose property I showed to my sister. I was not legally representing my sister, Diane &#8211; I was legally representing various random strangers (most of whom I never even met). Did it make sense back then to have it be required by law for me to disclose my relationship with my buyer to &#8220;my seller&#8221;? Yes. Today, agents are still required to disclose their relationship to the buyer? Why? Who is now being protected by this disclosure? If I take a listing now to sell Diane&#8217;s house am I going to give her &#8220;better agency&#8221; than I do my other clients? But I still have to put in the listing my relationship with Diane. Same deal if I were to sell her a house today. But today she would be my &#8220;client&#8221;, either as a buyer or as a seller. Who we represent is already a disclosure issue. This is just one example of the nonsense that passes for &#8220;important agency issues&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>The seller used to pay all the commissions directly. The listing signed by the seller via the listing broker required the seller to pay them &#8211; but that payment went directly (in a legal sense) from the seller to the respective agents (via their brokers). This was changed here in Arizona some years back to having the listing broker being made responsible for paying the selling (cooperating agent) bringing the buyer to closing. This was designed to prevent the seller (and \/ or buyer) from including the agents commission amounts as part of their offers or counter offers.<\/p>\n<p>So I list a house and the seller agrees to pay me &#8220;X&#8221; amount <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/650\/an-argument-for-dual-agency-%e2%80%93-part-1\/#more-650\" class=\"more-link\">Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is a stupid subject. This is a necessary subject. There are a lot of different viewpoints on this subject. A lot of the viewpoints that seem to matter came from lawyers, court decisions (judges who are also lawyers), and other people who are also wrong. Back in the days when it was sub-agency only [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_crdt_document":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[11,6,5],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-650","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"hentry","6":"category-dual-agency","7":"category-marketing","8":"category-real-estate","10":"no-featured-image"},"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":649,"url":"https:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/649\/dual-agency-smack-down-a-category-11-hurricane-of-arguments-against-disclosed-dual-agency\/","url_meta":{"origin":650,"position":0},"title":"Dual Agency Smack-Down: A category 11 hurricane of arguments against Disclosed Dual Agency . . .","author":"Greg Swann","date":"November 17, 2006","format":false,"excerpt":"I'm going to stir up a category 11 hurricane by basing my initial entry in the Dual Agency Smack-Down on our past posts on the subject. Cathleen and I have dealt with this topic at great length in the past, so it seems reasonable to reinforce our arguments by revisiting\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Dual Agency&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Dual Agency","link":"https:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/category\/dual-agency\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":662,"url":"https:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/662\/dual-agency-smack-down-how-about-sub-agency\/","url_meta":{"origin":650,"position":1},"title":"Dual Agency Smack-Down, how about sub-agency?","author":"Russell Shaw","date":"November 20, 2006","format":false,"excerpt":"It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried. - Sir Winston Churchill Thank you to Jeff for responding SO well to Greg's points and issues. I do understand Greg's points and in a perfect world - almost everything\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Dual Agency&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Dual Agency","link":"https:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/category\/dual-agency\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":87,"url":"https:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/87\/dual-agency-benefits-neither-buyer-nor-seller\/","url_meta":{"origin":650,"position":2},"title":"Dual agency benefits neither buyer nor seller","author":"Greg Swann","date":"July 14, 2006","format":false,"excerpt":"Quote: \"Double-dipping isn't very far from double-dealing, and dual agency has always been the Achilles' heel of the real estate industry.\" That's me in today's Arizona Republic. Here's a more permanent link. And here is the BloodhoundRealty.com policy on dual agency. 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