{"id":660,"date":"2010-02-18T11:09:42","date_gmt":"2010-02-18T18:09:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/?p=660"},"modified":"2010-02-18T11:11:35","modified_gmt":"2010-02-18T18:11:35","slug":"dual-agency-smack-down-real-estate-in-real-life","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/660\/dual-agency-smack-down-real-estate-in-real-life\/","title":{"rendered":"Dual Agency Smack-Down: Real estate in real life . . ."},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Kicking this back up to the top. I wrote this on November 19th, 2006, but nothing has changed since then. But, as it happens, <a href=\"http:\/\/agentgenius.com\/real-estate-law-marketing\/the-age-old-dual-agency-in-real-estate-debate\/\" target=\"_blank\">our friends at Agent Shortbus have taken up the topic of dual agency<\/a>, albeit without reference to anything rigorous or dispositive. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/?cat=11\" target=\"_blank\">We have a whole category devoted to dual agency<\/a>, and some very interesting Bloodhounds have weighed in on the topic, over the years. I think I&#8217;ve written more on the subject than anyone &#8212; possibly more than anyone, ever &#8212; but this one post is the giant-killer on dual agency.<\/p>\n<p>So: While our #RTBar-buddies are telling are telling you that dual agency feels just as good to them as a healthy bowel movement, this post explains &#8212; in painstaking detail &#8212; why disclosed dual agency cannot possibly be effected without persistent, repeated, egregious agency violations against both principals to the transaction.<\/p>\n<p>Don&#8217;t doubt my gratitude, though. I love the #RTB marketing message: A &#8220;professional&#8221; Realtor won&#8217;t do open houses, but he will take a double dip when the opportunity presents itself. I cannot think of a better way of selling our own high standards than for our competitors to be so forthcoming about their self-serving &#8220;professionalism.&#8221; Very nice.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, even though every bit of this is painfully obvious, here is why even a properly disclosed dual agency is unethical.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211;GSS<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<br \/>Addressing <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/?p=653\" target=\"_blank\">Jeff Brown&#8217;s claim that Dual Agency is more about perception than reality<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/?p=656\" target=\"_blank\">Russell Shaw&#8217;s contention that clients do what they intend to do, rather than what their agents advise them to do<\/a>, let&#8217;s go buy a house and see what happens.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m going to split my personality in thirds (I have plenty to go around). Realtor Gregory is going to represent the buyers. Realtor Stephen is going to represent the sellers. Then we&#8217;re going to reexamine events from the point of view of Dual Agency, with Realtor Swann representing both parties in a Disclosed Dual Agency.<\/p>\n<p>So: Realtor Gregory is out showing homes with his party and they settle on one they like, listed by Realtor Stephen. Because it&#8217;s a buyer&#8217;s market, and because the buyers aren&#8217;t very well-prepared, they don&#8217;t <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/660\/dual-agency-smack-down-real-estate-in-real-life\/#more-660\" class=\"more-link\">Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Kicking this back up to the top. I wrote this on November 19th, 2006, but nothing has changed since then. But, as it happens, our friends at Agent Shortbus have taken up the topic of dual agency, albeit without reference to anything rigorous or dispositive. We have a whole category devoted to dual agency, and [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_crdt_document":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[11,6,5],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-660","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"hentry","6":"category-dual-agency","7":"category-marketing","8":"category-real-estate","10":"no-featured-image"},"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":87,"url":"https:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/87\/dual-agency-benefits-neither-buyer-nor-seller\/","url_meta":{"origin":660,"position":0},"title":"Dual agency benefits neither buyer nor seller","author":"Greg Swann","date":"July 14, 2006","format":false,"excerpt":"Quote: \"Double-dipping isn't very far from double-dealing, and dual agency has always been the Achilles' heel of the real estate industry.\" That's me in today's Arizona Republic. Here's a more permanent link. And here is the BloodhoundRealty.com policy on dual agency. The topic is important enough to us that I\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Dual Agency&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Dual Agency","link":"https:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/category\/dual-agency\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/NoDualAgency.jpg?resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":649,"url":"https:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/649\/dual-agency-smack-down-a-category-11-hurricane-of-arguments-against-disclosed-dual-agency\/","url_meta":{"origin":660,"position":1},"title":"Dual Agency Smack-Down: A category 11 hurricane of arguments against Disclosed Dual Agency . . .","author":"Greg Swann","date":"November 17, 2006","format":false,"excerpt":"I'm going to stir up a category 11 hurricane by basing my initial entry in the Dual Agency Smack-Down on our past posts on the subject. Cathleen and I have dealt with this topic at great length in the past, so it seems reasonable to reinforce our arguments by revisiting\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Dual Agency&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Dual Agency","link":"https:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/category\/dual-agency\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":7197,"url":"https:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/7197\/dual-agency-debated-outside-of-the-echo-chamber\/","url_meta":{"origin":660,"position":2},"title":"Dual Agency Debated Outside of the Echo Chamber","author":"John Rowles","date":"February 27, 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"Google News plopped a link to a Blog post on SFGate.com (The San Francisco Chronicle's Web site) about dual agency in front of me today. It's always interesting to see a discussion about what Greg calls \"...the insane way we compensate buyer\u2019s agents in the residential real estate market\" in\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Carnival of Real Estate&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Carnival of Real Estate","link":"https:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/category\/carnival-of-real-estate\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":360,"url":"https:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/360\/dual-agency-duel-across-the-deserts\/","url_meta":{"origin":660,"position":3},"title":"Dual agency duel across the deserts . . .","author":"Greg Swann","date":"September 21, 2006","format":false,"excerpt":"Dual agency: Pro versus Con. 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Right about the same\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Dual Agency&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Dual Agency","link":"https:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/category\/dual-agency\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":670,"url":"https:\/\/www.bloodhoundrealty.com\/BloodhoundBlog\/670\/dual-agency-smack-down-the-renet-smacks-back\/","url_meta":{"origin":660,"position":5},"title":"Dual Agency Smack-Down: The RE.net smacks back . . .","author":"Greg Swann","date":"November 21, 2006","format":false,"excerpt":"Here are some weblogs addressing the Dual Agency Smack-Down from their own points of view: Whenever we talk about Dual Agency, the most fascinating remarks to me come from Christine Forgione at NY Houses 4 Sale. Because they're still working from sub-agency, we look like aliens to each other. 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